Alright guys, we've floated this out there long enough. With 45 teams signing up we do not have enough to continue the four 12-man leagues from last year. We will go with four 10 man leagues and the extra five teams will be subs in the event that a team does not sign up before their draft (or some other deadline designated by that LM).
The Tier 1 LM will be Top Gun Numba 1. The Tier 2 LM will be 4qb or whatever his name is now. We do not have LMs for Tiers 3 or 4 yet so if you are interested please throw your name in the hat. If your league has an LM, get them your e-mail so they can get you set up in the league. All LMs will get together to go over the settings, rosters, etc.. before the season starts so that we have uniform rules and regs.
For those that are new, we will run through the course of the season like normal, but after your league playoffs the top team from each league will square off over a two-week basis to get an ultimate winner out of all 40 teams. This comes with bragging rights and perhaps fun giveaways. Here are your leagues:
Tier 1 (Top Gun Numba 1)
ShawnTSA
Top Gun Numba 1
Sveet
FreeZorilla
PriceMultiCyYoungs
catsondbs
PewterPirate55
kericr
Behn
dapriceisright
Tier 2 (4qb)
4qb
goopunch
staplemaniac
daveh33
Sandy Kazmir
Warde
DeadeyeRR
blackraven
firemangreg
PutUpYourDukes
Tier 3 (Ryan Gilliss)
nomoredevil
OneTonneBaby
gjsor
D. Russ
Ryan Gilliss
Hatfield
Ramedy
pudieron89
Lithia Rays
ChristopherGarcia
Tier 4 (SandalsNoPants)
SandalsNoPants
sc_monsta1015
BossmanJunior333
AllstotFan40
matthan
MakeitRayn
E-Bagger
DRAY34
multiple sources
Longorious
Subs (In the event a team no-shows, a no-show means you're banned, FYI)
MetsRaysFan
snailz
VoiceOfBC
My name is Charlie Montoyo
BIGSNOOK35
Please keep all discussion to this thread so that we have a source for all questions and answers and good luck this year, boyos.
This post was written by a member of the DRaysBay community and does not necessarily express the views or opinions of DRaysBay staff.
3 recs | 284 comments
I will play
If there is an open spot
FLsteelhead - February 22, 2012 via mobile
You've got spunk
internet commenter - February 22, 2012
.
Hatfield - February 22, 2012
Tier ones email me at the address in my profile
Top Gun Numba 1 - February 22, 2012
Email sent
PriceMultiCyYoungs - February 22, 2012
Where does an email need to go for Lithia Rays, E-Bagger, and DRAY34?
Asking for a friend.
Hatfield - February 22, 2012
Reigning champ contact e-mail sent
ShawnTSA - February 22, 2012 via mobile
YOU HAVE MY EMAIL DERP
DaPriceIsRight - February 22, 2012
Send it again or you're out
Top Gun Numba 1 - February 22, 2012
kai ass
DaPriceIsRight - February 23, 2012
Did you invite me? I have not received one
PriceMultiCyYoungs - February 23, 2012
No, be patient
Top Gun Numba 1 - February 23, 2012
You know mine for Co-commish with FZ
Buc Wild - February 24, 2012
I ain't no stinkin co-commish
You can be my co-owner
FreeZorilla - February 24, 2012
Wurd
Buc Wild - February 24, 2012
What?!?!?! The winner of tier 1 is the overall champion
Sveet - February 22, 2012
Bitchin
Warde - February 22, 2012
boy i am so excited!
pudieron89 - February 22, 2012
I nominate pudding ron for Tier 3 LM
nomoredevil - February 22, 2012
Why is he in tier 3?
I thought he never played before?
SandalsNoPants - February 22, 2012
The first year teams start about 2/3 through Tier 3
Lotta dropouts from last year.
nomoredevil - February 22, 2012
First year teams in this league
but I thought he said he’d never played before in his life.
SandalsNoPants - February 23, 2012
Pudding gets priority, sorry.
firemangreg - February 23, 2012
Dont worry ill nominate you :)
BossmanJunior333 - February 23, 2012 via mobile
no thank you
pudieron89 - February 23, 2012
Im so glad to be playing on ESPN, the best fbb site in the world, all others are like sub-Saharan Africa
Warde - February 22, 2012
I'll volunteer to LM tier 4
I’ve been an LM on both Yahoo and ESPN, so I know how it works and everything.
Is this going to be on ESPN?
SandalsNoPants - February 22, 2012
Im guessing all four have to be same format (or not?)
Personally I nominate yahoo
BossmanJunior333 - February 23, 2012 via mobile
I've already got plans for one league on ESPN, Yahoo, and MLB.com
LM’ing, I prefer ESPN because you can edit the league page and add pictures and a chatbox, etc. Yahoo, as of last year, is very plain, and it was incredibly slow last season for me for whatever reason, but I preferred it to ESPN overall until then, so whatever.
SandalsNoPants - February 23, 2012
So will NoPants be the LM?
sc_monsta1015 - February 23, 2012
Good enough for me
Sandy Kazmir - February 23, 2012
sub list
I’m on the sub list (Snailz). If there’s an opening email me at elixir531@yahoo.com
snailz - February 22, 2012
Sveet and PewterPirate69 I need your emails
Top Gun Numba 1 - February 23, 2012
in my profile
Sveet - February 23, 2012
Email it to me
Top Gun Numba 1 - February 23, 2012
Who is 4qb now?
Tier 2 is officially the best league with the best(worst) posters.
DeadeyeRR - February 23, 2012
^hater^
4QB - February 23, 2012
No hater bra
Just referring to something Sandy Kaz said like “whoever or whatever alt 4QB is now.”
DeadeyeRR - February 24, 2012
fax r fax
staplemaniac - February 25, 2012
DRB Keeper League
Any news on it? This would be the third year.
gjsor - February 23, 2012
Theres still a lot of fuck boys in my league
DaPriceIsRight - February 23, 2012 via mobile
Bout to tear this shit up this year. Just like last year. You are now watching the throne bitch.
DaPriceIsRight - February 23, 2012 via mobile
I look forward to 4 months of this blathering
Top Gun Numba 1 - February 23, 2012
Bitches in our division dont go HAM like me
DaPriceIsRight - February 23, 2012 via mobile
Best avatar ever.
firemangreg - February 27, 2012
Alright Tier 3, welcome aboard Ryan Gilliss as your LM, we're still waiting on word from 4qb so if anyone has his tweeter or his e-mail can you give him a heads up
We’re still looking for someone to come forward for Tier 4 so let us know if you’d be interested in the responsibility and capable of fulfilling.
Sandy Kazmir - February 23, 2012
nvm then
SandalsNoPants - February 23, 2012
I missed you throwing your name in if that's what this is about, get someone from your league to second it and you're in
Sandy Kazmir - February 23, 2012
oh nvm.
I was just volunteering if you needed someone. I don’t particularly feel the need to do it. It’s just that I’ve done it before and have been playing for a long time, and in a league full of guys who may not be as experienced or have any experience, I thought I’d help out, and I don’t even mind giving helpful tips to opponents to help them learn. I’m not going to ask for a second, though. I’m not familiar with half the list, and none of them have ever played in a league with me before, so what would they be seconding based on?
SandalsNoPants - February 23, 2012
I'm not asking you to ask for anything, I just want to make sure that at least one other person in the league is comfortable with you in charge, I don't think that's a lot to ask
and I would ask it of anyone since that’s all new guys that didn’t play last year where Tiers 1 & 2 area all comebacks and Gilly played last year as did some of the other guys in that division.
Sandy Kazmir - February 23, 2012
If I recall correctly, I pretty much dominated last year.
Hatfield - February 23, 2012
"Dominated" and ended up(relegated to) in Tier 3
DeadeyeRR - February 23, 2012
Hatfield had the second worst record last year with an Oriole-esque .385 Win%
Sandy Kazmir - February 23, 2012
btw your avatar is magical.
DeadeyeRR - February 23, 2012
Makes me think it's Sutty every time.
R.I.P. :(
Hatfield - February 23, 2012
This is the only way we can experience him now
Sandy Kazmir - February 23, 2012
.
Hatfield - February 23, 2012
Had a couple minor mishaps along the way.
Hatfield - February 23, 2012
Is the email address in Gilliss' profile real?
People still use aol? Really?
nomoredevil - February 23, 2012
My thought exactly
Somehow this feels like playing in this league will require a 56k modem
ramedy - February 23, 2012
Yes that is my email address...
doesn’t make sense to change email addresses from one I’ve had for 14 years
Ryan Gilliss - February 24, 2012
You must get hella spam
PriceMultiCyYoungs - February 25, 2012
Members of Tier 3 please submit your e-mail address, copies of your medical records, birth certificate, social security card, a urine sample, and 5 years of tax returns to Ryan Gilliss so he can add you to the league
FreeZorilla - February 23, 2012
he already has all of mine, including unprotected fb pics saved on his hard drive.
pudieron89 - February 23, 2012
I'm looking at the one of you doing a human pyramid right now
Ryan Gilliss - February 23, 2012
redux!
pudieron89 - February 23, 2012
Dat boy gilly
DaPriceIsRight - February 23, 2012 via mobile
I'm alive foo
4QB - February 23, 2012
Tier 2 slumdogs- send me your email
IT’S IN MY PROFILE
4QB - February 23, 2012
(you may or may not end up on the No Fly list if you do so)
Hatfield - February 23, 2012
Hatefield
4QB - February 24, 2012
In.
Warde - February 24, 2012
We now have an LM for each league, if your name is up above send them an e-mail or risk being excluded (possibly sharted on)
LMs, just collect names for now. Once you’ve established general rules and settings then go ahead and create a league that is to spec.
Sandy Kazmir - February 23, 2012
You do realize we can change settings later right?
4QB - February 24, 2012
I know some are locked in so I figured it's better to be safe than sorry, but do your thang
Sandy Kazmir - February 24, 2012
Gonna need your email address in your profile Sandals
That way we can send you an email to notify you that we are willing to participate in the Fantasy Baseball League that you will dictate.
sc_monsta1015 - February 23, 2012
Im actually a Nigerian prince and I need 20 K from you to pay the taxes on my fortune
Dont worry ill send sandals an email and give him the details
BossmanJunior333 - February 24, 2012 via mobile
Email is in my profile
Please send an email from the address you want to join with or with that address in it.
Also, is it standard h2h cats? I’m not even sure of the settings here. ESPN?
SandalsNoPants - February 24, 2012
Yeah im assuming standard h2h
Im only doing one other league with my fraternity and its yahoo, so thats obv my pref, but im ok with either one.
BossmanJunior333 - February 24, 2012 via mobile
can we agree on league setup with positions and stats
Shit was all wrong in my league last year
Warde - February 24, 2012
Should be the same as it was in the leagues with non garbage monster commishes
Sveet - February 24, 2012
sent you an invite
4QB - February 24, 2012 via Android app
I'm using last years "agreed" upon rules.
4QB - February 24, 2012 via Android app
My understanding was that the commisioners were going to get together and discuss the rules so that all are equal.
DeadeyeRR - February 24, 2012
With only 10 teams per league
I think positional settings should look like:
C
1b
2b
3b
ss
mi
ci
of (5)
util
9 pitchers
3bench
That gives a 25 man roster, and it’s deep enough so that you have to actually look around a little for talent on the wire instead of having an obvious replacement always readily available, but it doesn’t make the talent that scarce, only drafting the top 250. For offense, anyway. Pitching will be easy to come by depending on how the league uses their benches.
I don’t particularly care about trade deadline, waiver time, lock time, or crap like that.
I also like to play vetoes as league vote, not LM.
SandalsNoPants - February 24, 2012
For real, that's not much fun
4QB - February 24, 2012
You want small rosters?
Or what’s the problem?
SandalsNoPants - February 24, 2012
Which is fine by me
I ran a 5×5 roto league with small rosters on yahoo for the past 3 seasons, but it was for amateurs.
Not really sure how into this people are, but those settings were probably more for veterans.
I’m down for whatever. Just giving my input.
SandalsNoPants - February 24, 2012
Generic OF isn't much fun over the course of a season
4QB - February 24, 2012 via Android app
so lf/cf/rf/of?
Not sure I understand.
SandalsNoPants - February 24, 2012
Yes
4QB - February 24, 2012
Been playing for years.
Always wanted to do that.
I’m down.
SandalsNoPants - February 24, 2012
I'd rather not, but you are the commish.
Unless all 4 leagues will have the same format, but I haven’t heard that yet.
sc_monsta1015 - February 25, 2012
I thought they would all have the same settings.
But I don’t know.
And I need your email. I only have BossmanJr’s.
SandalsNoPants - February 25, 2012
Will do.
sc_monsta1015 - February 25, 2012
Why is anyone listening to Sai? Use the set up from last year.
firemangreg - February 27, 2012
THIS WAS THE SETUP FROM LAST YEAR
4QB - February 27, 2012
Also, I need your email FMG
4QB - February 27, 2012 via Android app
I wouldn't get tied to any certain settings as it will come down to Topper telling you how it's going to go. I'd recommend getting your concessions in line now so you can negotiate ok later on
Sandy Kazmir - February 26, 2012
Lets not do Roto
Warde - February 24, 2012
We're doing H2H
4QB - February 24, 2012
My settings- in a 10 team league (this should easily happen)
C
1B
2B
3B
SS
1B/3B
2B/SS
LF
CF
RF
UTIL- 3
P- 4
SP-3
RP-2
Bench-5
DL-2
Scoring:
Batting- Home runs, Runs scored, RBI, XBH, SB, OBP
Pitching- ERA, Strikeouts, WHIP, Wins, Saves, K/BB
Waiver- 2 days
Votes to veto- at least 5
Playoffs start week 20
4QB - February 24, 2012
Not a huge fan of the 3 UTIL
Rather have one generic OF and 2 UTIL, and no specifics on pitchers, although I’m more willing to budge on the pitchers because I don’t really care.
SandalsNoPants - February 24, 2012
Also, I agree with 5 votes to veto.
The two who made the deal don’t really count, so there’s 8 left, and 5 is one more than half, which is perfect to me.
SandalsNoPants - February 24, 2012
Sorry for responding so much
but 5 BN is really a lot, but with 10 teams, maybe it will be alright.
SandalsNoPants - February 24, 2012
I'd rather 2 OF spots and one util so decisions are a little more difficult, the cats look fine, I'd have the longest waiver period possible to ensure everyone had a chance to pick up a guy not just the hawks
Set the playoffs up so that each intraleague series is one week with the finals for each league finishing up two weeks before the end of the season. I don’t really care how you break down the pitcher stuff. Otherwise looks pretty solid. Gilly, Topper, and Sandals I’m sure will have their tweaks.
Sandy Kazmir - February 25, 2012
I wonder how long it will be until FIP is a fantasy category
nomoredevil - February 25, 2012
I tried to get my fantasy league to switch around some stats
I did get them to drop batting avg, since we already counted hits
d.russ - February 25, 2012
The finals and intraleague has been set up exactly as last year.
That also being said, I don’t like a 4 day waiver period because it takes away potential SP’s who might be scheduled to start in a day or so.
4QB - February 25, 2012
So plan that out in advance if you plan on streaming pitchers
Not everybody is sitting on their computer looking to grab every guy as soon as he has a good game
Sandy Kazmir - February 26, 2012
Home Runs counts twice with xbh.
PriceMultiCyYoungs - February 25, 2012
Truth
4QB - February 25, 2012
As they should
Sandy Kazmir - February 26, 2012
Speaking of looking in profiles, did you look at this one?
http://www.sbnation.com/users/AllstotFan40
SandalsNoPants - February 26, 2012
sorry, wrong spot
SandalsNoPants - February 26, 2012
Awesome
Sandy Kazmir - February 26, 2012
I liked his website better than the bio.
SandalsNoPants - February 26, 2012
Some genius must have come up with that
Top Gun Numba 1 - February 28, 2012
I'm on board with the standard ESPN rules.
I don’t want to confuse myself with a bunch of rules that aren’t heard of.
sc_monsta1015 - February 25, 2012
No
4QB - February 25, 2012
Or, we could just have different settings for each league if that's what the majority of the guys want.
sc_monsta1015 - February 25, 2012
No
SandalsNoPants - February 25, 2012
I was expecting this.
sc_monsta1015 - February 25, 2012
No
DeadeyeRR - February 25, 2012
I was expecting this.
sc_monsta1015 - February 25, 2012
No
4QB - February 25, 2012 via Android app
I was expecting this.
sc_monsta1015 - February 25, 2012
So I've got 3/10 member emails, including mine.
Is there any way good way to procure the emails of the remaining members besides just waiting and hoping?
SandalsNoPants - February 25, 2012
You got mine, right?
BossmanJunior333 - February 25, 2012 via mobile
yes, only yours and SC's
thanks
SandalsNoPants - February 25, 2012
This 3 man draft will be deep
BossmanJunior333 - February 25, 2012 via mobile
Check out their profiles
Sandy Kazmir - February 26, 2012
speaking of checking profiles, did you happen to look at this one?
http://www.sbnation.com/users/AllstotFan40
SandalsNoPants - February 26, 2012
sooooo that guy's was the only one with his email in his profile.
DRAY34 only joined to make the one post, saying he was interested.
Matthan hasn’t been on in nearly 3 weeks. Does he post at OTTOTD?
Longorious’s only post this in 2012 is the one in which he said he was interested.
Multiple sources seems to be around lately a little, but he hasn’t posted on here, I don’t think.
MakeitRayn falls into the category of Multiple sources.
That’s all I need. This is going to be a dead league by May.
SandalsNoPants - February 26, 2012
Is multiple sources an alt?
SandalsNoPants - February 26, 2012
Feel free to take all of the subs, just not FLsteelhead since he didn't make the deadline
Sandy Kazmir - February 26, 2012
Yeah, and the Allstot guy had a fake or non-current email address, anyway.
SandalsNoPants - February 26, 2012
Could we perhaps make it 3 leagues of 12?
I don’t want to put in all this effort and then not even have enough guys to form a league.
SandalsNoPants - February 26, 2012
I emailed snailz.
He left his email on this thread. No info on the others, but I responded to Buddy Christ’s post from a few days back, and maybe he’ll see it.
SandalsNoPants - February 26, 2012
I am still interested.
bigsnook35@gmail.com
BIGSNOOK35 - February 26, 2012
thank you!
SandalsNoPants - February 26, 2012
Its an easy pass to Tier 1 next year
FreeZorilla - February 27, 2012
Using yahoo or ESPN?
You can email me the information and I can just join the group. Mocha5@vt.edu
MakeitRayn - February 26, 2012
Thank you!
Good question about yahoo or espn. I prefer ESPN since I decided not to do my yahoo league this season. I will email everyone within 24 hours to discuss.
I think so far, I’ve got snailz, SC, Bossman, you, me, snook, and ebagger. Only 3 to go unless I’m forgetting someone.
SandalsNoPants - February 26, 2012
The league will be on ESPN
Sveet - February 27, 2012
snailz is out.
Back up to 4, I think.
emails to be sent out shortly.
SandalsNoPants - February 27, 2012
Even if we get 10, I hope everyone at least shows up for the draft
BossmanJunior333 - February 27, 2012 via mobile
I emailed you?
SandalsNoPants - February 27, 2012
Yeah got it
Just have to set up my espn account
BossmanJunior333 - February 27, 2012 via mobile
I got the email too
sc_monsta1015 - February 28, 2012
Threatening is pretty effective.
sc_monsta1015 - February 25, 2012
Let's just pretend this was a reply to Sandals.
sc_monsta1015 - February 25, 2012
What's wrong with setting up the league the exact same way as last year?
Sveet - February 25, 2012
What was the set up last season?
SandalsNoPants - February 25, 2012
Anyways, I don't really care.
I’ll play any roster with any settings.
Someone just let me know what they are.
SandalsNoPants - February 25, 2012
Nothing
DeadeyeRR - February 25, 2012
I've done it exactly the same way.
4QB - February 25, 2012 via Android app
Email sent to Tier III members that haven't emailed me...
please respond Hatfield, Lithia Rays, pudieron89 and ramedy.
Ryan Gilliss - February 27, 2012
Done.
No telling when pudieron will stumble out of his ass cave today.
Hatfield - February 27, 2012
Not gonna lie
Kinda ticked that you got affirmative action’d into Tier III after that dog vomit you hacked up last year.
nomoredevil - February 27, 2012
It's not the grades you make, Faulkner. It's the hands you shake.
Hatfield - February 27, 2012
Do better this year and you will have a chance to get fantasy ass kicked by me again
Mr Italic Squirrels
DeadeyeRR - February 27, 2012
u mad bro?
Hatfield - February 27, 2012
Sai you messed up the settings. There should be 2 OF spots and no 2B/SS
firemangreg - February 28, 2012
what a tard
Warde - February 28, 2012
No there is a 2B/SS
4QB - February 29, 2012
And I'm keeping 1 OF, no matter what
4QB - February 29, 2012
They all need to be the same across the Superliga or else.
DeadeyeRR - February 29, 2012
Yes that's the larger point, I don't care what the settings are, they just need to be uniform
Sandy Kazmir - February 29, 2012
Here are the settings from last year
http://games.espn.go.com/flb/leaguesetup/settings?leagueId=12350
I personally think having a LF,CF,RF is retarded, but that’s the way we did it.
Sveet - February 29, 2012
YES USE THESE
Warde - February 29, 2012
You're dumb. Last year there wasn't a 2B/SS (unless you were in a dumb league). There was LF, CF, RF, OF, OF & 1B/3B.
Change it. There’s zero reason to have an additional MIF spot.
firemangreg - March 1, 2012
Make that one OF. But ditch the 2B/SS
firemangreg - March 1, 2012
My league had the 2b/ss instead of 3b/1b
RETARD LM
Warde - March 1, 2012
Why the fuck would any league want an additional 2B/SS spot?
firemangreg - March 2, 2012
I had to start Jamey Carrol
Warde - March 2, 2012
Last year, nobody had the same settings
4QB - March 1, 2012
I actually think everyone did except one league
Sveet - March 2, 2012
Yes, my retarded league
Warde - March 2, 2012
Yeah, this is definitely the case.
firemangreg - March 2, 2012
Tier 4 has 5/10 in the league.
ughhhhhhhhhh
SandalsNoPants - February 29, 2012
Good thing we still have a month!!!
Sandy Kazmir - February 29, 2012
Also, feel free to invite all of the alternates or anyone else that you know. Just get it filled
Sandy Kazmir - February 29, 2012
Tried the alts already.
I didn’t think I’d have to recruit. That’s more of what the ugh was about. I could probably use some help because we have to get it done asap so a draft time can be scheduled.
SandalsNoPants - February 29, 2012
The front page is calling...
nomoredevil - February 29, 2012
I'll see if I can get somebody to join.
I’m sure it’s fine if they aren’t a regular DRB poster, right?
sc_monsta1015 - February 29, 2012
I'm sure, but they should probably have a SBN username.
Half the tools on the tier 4 list aren’t regs.
SandalsNoPants - February 29, 2012
Gotcha
sc_monsta1015 - February 29, 2012
Tier 4 is up to 6.
Pikachu from Bluebird Banter has joined, and is wondering about his ban status and if it can be lifted. I have no idea what he did, but he is helping out a lot by joining this league, so whatever that’s worth.
SandalsNoPants - February 29, 2012
Apparently due to the no anime rule?
sigh. I somehow hope there is a way around this one.
SandalsNoPants - February 29, 2012
NO ANIME MEANS NO ANIME.
Hatfield - February 29, 2012
should we unban Goku and Sailor Moon while we're at it?
slippery slope..i vote no.
pudieron89 - February 29, 2012
+1
Amen, brother.
Hatfield - February 29, 2012
Goku, no
Sailor Moon. Yes. A million times, yes.
SandalsNoPants - February 29, 2012
Sorry dude, no anime means no anime.
firemangreg - March 1, 2012
Are you still looking?
I’m interested if you are. My e-mail is in my profile so just let me know one way or another.
FletchIsMyHero - February 29, 2012
He's welcome to register an account that isn't based on a pokeman
Top Gun Numba 1 - March 1, 2012
lol
daveh33 - March 5, 2012
CHANGE YOUR FUCKING NAME COMMA WEEABOO.
kericr - March 2, 2012
Tier 4 is up to 7.
STILL NEED 3!
SandalsNoPants - March 1, 2012
Also, are any settings definite yet?
SandalsNoPants - March 1, 2012
corner if, rf, lf, cf, 2 of, util
Warde - March 1, 2012
C - 1 - 2 - 3 - SS - 1/3 - lf - cf - rf - of - of - util
Top Gun Numba 1 - March 1, 2012
plus 9 P
Top Gun Numba 1 - March 1, 2012
And 0 pokemen.
Hatfield - March 1, 2012
-1 if I had my way
Top Gun Numba 1 - March 1, 2012
Bench?
SandalsNoPants - March 1, 2012
5 bench 2 DL 7 transactions per week 12 GS per week
Top Gun Numba 1 - March 1, 2012
Tell Sai this
Warde - March 1, 2012
I've unlocked this subthread so he should be able to see it
Top Gun Numba 1 - March 1, 2012
Limits?
SandalsNoPants - March 1, 2012
9 generic?
4QB - March 1, 2012
Yeah
Top Gun Numba 1 - March 1, 2012
All right, W/E
4QB - March 1, 2012
Yes, this
Sandy Kazmir - March 1, 2012
Done
4QB - March 1, 2012
I TOLD YOU
firemangreg - March 2, 2012
Thanks.
SandalsNoPants - March 1, 2012
did you do the lf/cf/rf last year?
I’m not sure I’m a fan of it but whatev
BossmanJunior333 - March 2, 2012 via mobile
Yes
4QB - March 2, 2012 via Android app
Ya it's pretty retarded
Sveet - March 4, 2012
Agreed.
sc_monsta1015 - March 4, 2012
I mean I could understand having a corner outfield and a center field
At least that makes more sense. It doesn’t add any realism to me that I can’t play Matt Joyce in LF
Sveet - March 4, 2012
I definitely prefer just generic OF
Plus that’s how we did it last year
ShawnTSA - March 4, 2012
Wrong
Top Gun Numba 1 - March 4, 2012
What retarded league were you in?
4QB - March 4, 2012
Yes, even that would be better.
sc_monsta1015 - March 4, 2012
Dumb
Top Gun Numba 1 - March 4, 2012
So says the garbage commish
DeadeyeRR - March 5, 2012
I'm still going to need some help filling 3 spots in tier 4.
Any recruiting help is appreciated.
SandalsNoPants - March 2, 2012
I'm sure we can get that done in time.
There has to be a few guys who either change their mind or see that we need some help. I’ll do what I can though…
sc_monsta1015 - March 2, 2012
ShawnTSA, sveet, and FZ, get your rears in gear
Top Gun Numba 1 - March 4, 2012
Sorry about that, busy week
ShawnTSA - March 4, 2012
Still need 3.
SandalsNoPants - March 4, 2012
Slumdogs go on league page and give me a draft time
4QB - March 5, 2012
I don't think tier 4 is happening.
Just saying. Good luck this year.
SandalsNoPants - March 5, 2012
Throwing up a hail mary, stay positive, young SandalsNoPants
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2012/3/4/2845172/mariners-edge-padres-win-big-pr-points#93949888
Sandy Kazmir - March 5, 2012
The season doesn't start for a month
Sveet - March 5, 2012
Contingency plans aren't a bad idea though
It is the Rays’ Way, after all. So I propose that, in the unlikely event that Tier 4 doesn’t happen, we emulated MLBs changes. Three Division Winners get a bye the first round, while the two best non-division winners get wildcard spots…and play a one-day playoff.
nomoredevil - March 5, 2012
Completely OT:
Curious as to why you quit posting over at RR?
DeadeyeRR - March 5, 2012
Is that some board about sunday school and animal murder?
Hatfield - March 5, 2012
So what if it is, Polk County boi?
DeadeyeRR - March 5, 2012
I dunno, just sort of happened
I got really busy last year with the new book and didn’t go much of anywhere for baseball stuff at the beginning of the year. Then when I did stop by, the conversation seemed kind of dead and/or reactionary. I’ll probably stop by some more during the season when conversation picks up. There’s no hard feeling toward anybody, if that’s what you’re asking.
nomoredevil - March 5, 2012
I understand.
That place is dead in the offseason. I backed away for quite dome time myself.
DeadeyeRR - March 5, 2012
There is no interleague playoffs
Tier 1 winner is the champ.
Sveet - March 5, 2012
No
DeadeyeRR - March 5, 2012
This is what was agreed upon always
and now that people aren’t in tier 1 we are changing it.
What was the point of putting all the top players in tier 1 if some tier 4 garbage monster is going to have an equal chance to win it?
The first year was unique because we had to sort out the divisions, but then it was going to turn into a relegation/promotion system. Where Tier 1 is the Premier League.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Sveet - March 5, 2012
I'd love to have a dialogue on this because I disagree and think re-ranks should be based on Win% as we did this year, but it's about what the people want
We should probably hammer out two to three different arguments and then take a poll. I like the idea of being able to win it all from anywhere, seems like less seniority and forces you to be on your toes more. If you want to avoid the bottom tier then you have to at least be in the top half of your league. Make the playoffs and you’re most likely either tier 1 or 2, especially if we have drop outs.
Sandy Kazmir - March 5, 2012
I just want to make sure I'm not in some bum tier.
Hatfield - March 5, 2012
What's the penalty for being in the bottom tier?
What’s the advantage to being in tier 1?
Right, now it’s nothing. (I think you could argue it’s more desirable to be in a lower tier)
Sveet - March 5, 2012
If you're in the bottom tier for multiple years it's because you're the worst of the worst. Opposite for being at the top over and over
This is all bragging rights so if you can be the best of the best year after year then you’re clearly a better player. If I haven’t been clear, I don’t really care either way.
Sandy Kazmir - March 5, 2012
Any other Tier 1ers want to chime in?
So are we doing relegation from now on or are we still reseeding based on win % every year?
Sveet - March 5, 2012
We'll take a poll
Sandy Kazmir - March 5, 2012
Sveet has definitely taken a pole.
Hatfield - March 5, 2012
Tier 1 envy
Sveet - March 5, 2012
It is analogous to posting tiers.
Bottom tiered posters, like yourself, are not taken seriously here because of their low level posting quality.
Similarly, poor fantasy baseball owners (myself EXCLUDED here, because I forgot my ESPN password after like day 3 of the season) will see the same treatment.
Hatfield - March 5, 2012
Weren't you in Tier Ryan Gilliss's knob slobbers?
Sveet - March 5, 2012
and as we all know, it is darned near impossible to get ESPN to reset your password
nomoredevil - March 5, 2012
The penalty seems to be a league that isn't filled and with more likelihood of deadbeat owners
no offense, guys haha
SandalsNoPants - March 5, 2012
Just because some shitty team played in a shitty division last year with a shitty commish, TGN1 I am looking at you,
doesn’t mean they deserve to be in the top Tier .
DeadeyeRR - March 5, 2012
Sveet, leaguemates, total strangers, I think I've come up with a nice blended combination of how the rankings should go next year.
We will rank by all team’s records as we did going into this year, but let’s regress this with another 240 games at separate weights depending on tier:
Tier 1 .600
Tier 2 .550
Tier 3 .500
Tier 4 .450
So if you were in tier 1 and had a .506 Win% then that would regress to .553. If you had a .506 Win% in Tier 4 then that regresses to .478. We then rank by this weighted Win% or wWin%. We can tweak the win% weights and also how heavily we regress, but those details can be worked out later. For now, look at how last years ranks worked out:

Now let’s assume for a moment that red was Tier 1, Blue was Tier 2, Yellow was Tier 3, and Green is Tier 4, here’s how this looks with wWIN%:
You can still climb from Tier 3 to Tier 1 as Topper did or fall from Tier 2 to Tier 4 as Chin Music Jihad would have, but you’re not punished as harshly if you’ve already earned Tier 1 status.
I feel this is a nice compromise, but would like to know how others feel.
Sandy Kazmir - March 5, 2012
If you guys list the link to your leagues, I'd like to start a sheet that includes each of the teams.
Sandy Kazmir - March 5, 2012
This is tier 4
My team name will be changing once it’s filled.
http://games.espn.go.com/flb/leagueoffice?leagueId=72890
Should be up to 8 members within 24 hours, btw. 2 to go.
SandalsNoPants - March 5, 2012
Thanks
Sandy Kazmir - March 5, 2012
I put some feelers out to see if I could get some players for you.
DeadeyeRR - March 5, 2012
Thanks.
I’ve tried at Camden Chat, BBB, and PSA.
Caught a pikachu at BBB. Regular pokeball, not a great or ultraball or anything.
SandalsNoPants - March 5, 2012
I wish I could help more.
I just don’t have many resources that are SBNation posters…We have a ton of time though, and it shouldn’t be very hard at all.
sc_monsta1015 - March 5, 2012
Yeah, but time is running out, and I'd like to get everyone to agree on a draft date and time
That’s going to take a few days to get everyone’s input with their schedule and stuff, and then a little while longer to vote on a day, etc etc etc. The other ESPN league I run took about a week to decide a draft time from listed good/bad days/times to finally agreeing on a specific time.
SandalsNoPants - March 5, 2012
Good point. You said you got another guy?
sc_monsta1015 - March 5, 2012
yes, if he emails me back.
SandalsNoPants - March 5, 2012
If his username is something along the lines of DragonballZebra, you're banned forever.
Hatfield - March 5, 2012
I'll take what I can get
but no.
SandalsNoPants - March 5, 2012
Actually his invite was just sent.
SandalsNoPants - March 5, 2012
Swingles
http://games.espn.go.com/flb/leagueoffice?leagueId=79061&teamId=1&seasonId=2012
Top Gun Numba 1 - March 5, 2012
Thanks, just need Gilly now
Sandy Kazmir - March 6, 2012
I'm stuck with the bad leaguers again
4QB - March 5, 2012
It's just an example, there's no way we were Tier 4 last year
Sandy Kazmir - March 5, 2012
Honestly, if you do it this way- It'll be way more confusing. Half of the people in tier 4 (my league) quit last year
And I’m not sure this will be as easy for inviting people.
4QB - March 5, 2012
But if we roll with this and there is actual participation in tier 4 (non-frequent DRB readers), I could see it workout (maybe)
4QB - March 5, 2012
Well new guys will continue to automatically get slotted in Tier 4 upwards, We'd probably still realistically have three full tiers and then one for new guys
If you’re not complete ass then you should always be in tier 1 or 2 if you play every year.
Sandy Kazmir - March 5, 2012
I don't see why you can't have relegation AND interleague playoffs
Use the regular season for relegation purposes, and the interleague post-season as simply bragging rights. That way, there can endless arguments about whether it is more impressive to win the toughest Tier in (fantasy) baseball, or to win the crapshoot of a (fantasy) “championship”
nomoredevil - March 5, 2012
Yeah, that's happening anyway, I have no idea if we should let the four playoff teams have automatic exemptions to Tier 1. That seems fair with everyone else then slotting from there.
Sandy Kazmir - March 5, 2012
I'd rather not give the playoff teams automatic exemptions
There’s no reason for Tier 4 team to hop up to Tier 1 by virtue of simply making the playoffs. Maybe give the playoff champ an exemption to the top tier, but winning a non-competitive league isn’t really much of an accomplishment in and of itself.
nomoredevil - March 5, 2012
It's almost exclusively filled with new players this year, I'd think you could throw them one bone, but you're probably right that it should be earned
#KeepTier1Exclusive.org
Sandy Kazmir - March 5, 2012
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