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Fantasy Baseball Superliga 2012

Alright guys, we've floated this out there long enough. With 45 teams signing up we do not have enough to continue the four 12-man leagues from last year. We will go with four 10 man leagues and the extra five teams will be subs in the event that a team does not sign up before their draft (or some other deadline designated by that LM).


The Tier 1 LM will be Top Gun Numba 1. The Tier 2 LM will be 4qb or whatever his name is now. We do not have LMs for Tiers 3 or 4 yet so if you are interested please throw your name in the hat. If your league has an LM, get them your e-mail so they can get you set up in the league. All LMs will get together to go over the settings, rosters, etc.. before the season starts so that we have uniform rules and regs.

For those that are new, we will run through the course of the season like normal, but after your league playoffs the top team from each league will square off over a two-week basis to get an ultimate winner out of all 40 teams. This comes with bragging rights and perhaps fun giveaways. Here are your leagues:

Tier 1 (Top Gun Numba 1)

ShawnTSA
Top Gun Numba 1
Sveet
FreeZorilla
PriceMultiCyYoungs
catsondbs
PewterPirate55
kericr
Behn
dapriceisright

Tier 2 (4qb)

4qb
goopunch
staplemaniac
daveh33
Sandy Kazmir
Warde
DeadeyeRR
blackraven
firemangreg
PutUpYourDukes

Tier 3 (Ryan Gilliss)

nomoredevil
OneTonneBaby
gjsor
D. Russ
Ryan Gilliss
Hatfield
Ramedy
pudieron89
Lithia Rays
ChristopherGarcia

Tier 4 (SandalsNoPants)

SandalsNoPants
sc_monsta1015
BossmanJunior333
AllstotFan40
matthan
MakeitRayn
E-Bagger
DRAY34
multiple sources
Longorious

Subs (In the event a team no-shows, a no-show means you're banned, FYI)

MetsRaysFan
snailz
VoiceOfBC
My name is Charlie Montoyo
BIGSNOOK35

Please keep all discussion to this thread so that we have a source for all questions and answers and good luck this year, boyos.

This post was written by a member of the DRaysBay community and does not necessarily express the views or opinions of DRaysBay staff.

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I will play

If there is an open spot

Tier ones email me at the address in my profile
Where does an email need to go for Lithia Rays, E-Bagger, and DRAY34?

Asking for a friend.

Reigning champ contact e-mail sent
YOU HAVE MY EMAIL DERP
Send it again or you're out
Did you invite me? I have not received one
You know mine for Co-commish with FZ
I ain't no stinkin co-commish

You can be my co-owner

What?!?!?! The winner of tier 1 is the overall champion
For those that are new, we will run through the course of the season like normal, but after your league playoffs the top team from each league will square off over a two-week basis to get an ultimate winner out of all 40 teams.
boy i am so excited!
I nominate pudding ron for Tier 3 LM
Why is he in tier 3?

I thought he never played before?

The first year teams start about 2/3 through Tier 3

Lotta dropouts from last year.

First year teams in this league

but I thought he said he’d never played before in his life.

Pudding gets priority, sorry.
Dont worry ill nominate you :)
Im so glad to be playing on ESPN, the best fbb site in the world, all others are like sub-Saharan Africa
I'll volunteer to LM tier 4

I’ve been an LM on both Yahoo and ESPN, so I know how it works and everything.

Is this going to be on ESPN?

Im guessing all four have to be same format (or not?)

Personally I nominate yahoo

I've already got plans for one league on ESPN, Yahoo, and MLB.com

LM’ing, I prefer ESPN because you can edit the league page and add pictures and a chatbox, etc. Yahoo, as of last year, is very plain, and it was incredibly slow last season for me for whatever reason, but I preferred it to ESPN overall until then, so whatever.

So will NoPants be the LM?
Good enough for me
sub list

I’m on the sub list (Snailz). If there’s an opening email me at elixir531@yahoo.com

Sveet and PewterPirate69 I need your emails
Who is 4qb now?

Tier 2 is officially the best league with the best(worst) posters.

^hater^
No hater bra

Just referring to something Sandy Kaz said like “whoever or whatever alt 4QB is now.”

DRB Keeper League

Any news on it? This would be the third year.

Theres still a lot of fuck boys in my league
Bout to tear this shit up this year. Just like last year. You are now watching the throne bitch.
I look forward to 4 months of this blathering
Bitches in our division dont go HAM like me
Best avatar ever.
Alright Tier 3, welcome aboard Ryan Gilliss as your LM, we're still waiting on word from 4qb so if anyone has his tweeter or his e-mail can you give him a heads up

We’re still looking for someone to come forward for Tier 4 so let us know if you’d be interested in the responsibility and capable of fulfilling.

nvm then
I missed you throwing your name in if that's what this is about, get someone from your league to second it and you're in
oh nvm.

I was just volunteering if you needed someone. I don’t particularly feel the need to do it. It’s just that I’ve done it before and have been playing for a long time, and in a league full of guys who may not be as experienced or have any experience, I thought I’d help out, and I don’t even mind giving helpful tips to opponents to help them learn. I’m not going to ask for a second, though. I’m not familiar with half the list, and none of them have ever played in a league with me before, so what would they be seconding based on?

I'm not asking you to ask for anything, I just want to make sure that at least one other person in the league is comfortable with you in charge, I don't think that's a lot to ask

and I would ask it of anyone since that’s all new guys that didn’t play last year where Tiers 1 & 2 area all comebacks and Gilly played last year as did some of the other guys in that division.

If I recall correctly, I pretty much dominated last year.
"Dominated" and ended up(relegated to) in Tier 3
Hatfield had the second worst record last year with an Oriole-esque .385 Win%
btw your avatar is magical.
Makes me think it's Sutty every time.

R.I.P. :(

This is the only way we can experience him now
Had a couple minor mishaps along the way.
Is the email address in Gilliss' profile real?

People still use aol? Really?

My thought exactly

Somehow this feels like playing in this league will require a 56k modem

Yes that is my email address...

doesn’t make sense to change email addresses from one I’ve had for 14 years

You must get hella spam
I'm alive foo
Tier 2 slumdogs- send me your email

IT’S IN MY PROFILE

(you may or may not end up on the No Fly list if you do so)
We now have an LM for each league, if your name is up above send them an e-mail or risk being excluded (possibly sharted on)

LMs, just collect names for now. Once you’ve established general rules and settings then go ahead and create a league that is to spec.

You do realize we can change settings later right?
I know some are locked in so I figured it's better to be safe than sorry, but do your thang
Gonna need your email address in your profile Sandals

That way we can send you an email to notify you that we are willing to participate in the Fantasy Baseball League that you will dictate.

Im actually a Nigerian prince and I need 20 K from you to pay the taxes on my fortune

Dont worry ill send sandals an email and give him the details

Email is in my profile

Please send an email from the address you want to join with or with that address in it.

Also, is it standard h2h cats? I’m not even sure of the settings here. ESPN?

Yeah im assuming standard h2h

Im only doing one other league with my fraternity and its yahoo, so thats obv my pref, but im ok with either one.

can we agree on league setup with positions and stats

Shit was all wrong in my league last year

Should be the same as it was in the leagues with non garbage monster commishes
sent you an invite
I'm using last years "agreed" upon rules.
My understanding was that the commisioners were going to get together and discuss the rules so that all are equal.
With only 10 teams per league

I think positional settings should look like:

C
1b
2b
3b
ss
mi
ci
of (5)
util
9 pitchers
3bench

That gives a 25 man roster, and it’s deep enough so that you have to actually look around a little for talent on the wire instead of having an obvious replacement always readily available, but it doesn’t make the talent that scarce, only drafting the top 250. For offense, anyway. Pitching will be easy to come by depending on how the league uses their benches.

I don’t particularly care about trade deadline, waiver time, lock time, or crap like that.

I also like to play vetoes as league vote, not LM.

For real, that's not much fun
You want small rosters?

Or what’s the problem?

Which is fine by me

I ran a 5×5 roto league with small rosters on yahoo for the past 3 seasons, but it was for amateurs.

Not really sure how into this people are, but those settings were probably more for veterans.

I’m down for whatever. Just giving my input.

Generic OF isn't much fun over the course of a season
so lf/cf/rf/of?

Not sure I understand.

Yes
Been playing for years.

Always wanted to do that.

I’m down.

I'd rather not, but you are the commish.

Unless all 4 leagues will have the same format, but I haven’t heard that yet.

I thought they would all have the same settings.

But I don’t know.

And I need your email. I only have BossmanJr’s.

Why is anyone listening to Sai? Use the set up from last year.
THIS WAS THE SETUP FROM LAST YEAR
Also, I need your email FMG
I wouldn't get tied to any certain settings as it will come down to Topper telling you how it's going to go. I'd recommend getting your concessions in line now so you can negotiate ok later on
Lets not do Roto
We're doing H2H
My settings- in a 10 team league (this should easily happen)

C
1B
2B
3B
SS
1B/3B
2B/SS
LF
CF
RF
UTIL- 3
P- 4
SP-3
RP-2
Bench-5
DL-2

Scoring:

Batting- Home runs, Runs scored, RBI, XBH, SB, OBP
Pitching- ERA, Strikeouts, WHIP, Wins, Saves, K/BB

Waiver- 2 days
Votes to veto- at least 5

Playoffs start week 20

Not a huge fan of the 3 UTIL

Rather have one generic OF and 2 UTIL, and no specifics on pitchers, although I’m more willing to budge on the pitchers because I don’t really care.

Also, I agree with 5 votes to veto.

The two who made the deal don’t really count, so there’s 8 left, and 5 is one more than half, which is perfect to me.

Sorry for responding so much

but 5 BN is really a lot, but with 10 teams, maybe it will be alright.

I'd rather 2 OF spots and one util so decisions are a little more difficult, the cats look fine, I'd have the longest waiver period possible to ensure everyone had a chance to pick up a guy not just the hawks

Set the playoffs up so that each intraleague series is one week with the finals for each league finishing up two weeks before the end of the season. I don’t really care how you break down the pitcher stuff. Otherwise looks pretty solid. Gilly, Topper, and Sandals I’m sure will have their tweaks.

I wonder how long it will be until FIP is a fantasy category
I tried to get my fantasy league to switch around some stats

I did get them to drop batting avg, since we already counted hits

The finals and intraleague has been set up exactly as last year.

That also being said, I don’t like a 4 day waiver period because it takes away potential SP’s who might be scheduled to start in a day or so.

So plan that out in advance if you plan on streaming pitchers

Not everybody is sitting on their computer looking to grab every guy as soon as he has a good game

Home Runs counts twice with xbh.
As they should
Speaking of looking in profiles, did you look at this one?

http://www.sbnation.com/users/AllstotFan40

Awesome
r Tampa-born, Tampa-raised fan who loves his Bucs and Yankees. The A-Train has and forever will represent the best of the Bay Area, GO ALLSTOT!!!!!!!
I liked his website better than the bio.
Some genius must have come up with that
I'm on board with the standard ESPN rules.

I don’t want to confuse myself with a bunch of rules that aren’t heard of.

No
Or, we could just have different settings for each league if that's what the majority of the guys want.
No
I was expecting this.
So I've got 3/10 member emails, including mine.

Is there any way good way to procure the emails of the remaining members besides just waiting and hoping?

You got mine, right?
yes, only yours and SC's

thanks

This 3 man draft will be deep
Check out their profiles
speaking of checking profiles, did you happen to look at this one?

http://www.sbnation.com/users/AllstotFan40

sooooo that guy's was the only one with his email in his profile.

DRAY34 only joined to make the one post, saying he was interested.
Matthan hasn’t been on in nearly 3 weeks. Does he post at OTTOTD?
Longorious’s only post this in 2012 is the one in which he said he was interested.
Multiple sources seems to be around lately a little, but he hasn’t posted on here, I don’t think.
MakeitRayn falls into the category of Multiple sources.

That’s all I need. This is going to be a dead league by May.

Is multiple sources an alt?
Feel free to take all of the subs, just not FLsteelhead since he didn't make the deadline
Yeah, and the Allstot guy had a fake or non-current email address, anyway.
Could we perhaps make it 3 leagues of 12?

I don’t want to put in all this effort and then not even have enough guys to form a league.

I emailed snailz.

He left his email on this thread. No info on the others, but I responded to Buddy Christ’s post from a few days back, and maybe he’ll see it.

Its an easy pass to Tier 1 next year
Using yahoo or ESPN?

You can email me the information and I can just join the group. Mocha5@vt.edu

Thank you!

Good question about yahoo or espn. I prefer ESPN since I decided not to do my yahoo league this season. I will email everyone within 24 hours to discuss.

I think so far, I’ve got snailz, SC, Bossman, you, me, snook, and ebagger. Only 3 to go unless I’m forgetting someone.

The league will be on ESPN
snailz is out.

Back up to 4, I think.

emails to be sent out shortly.

Even if we get 10, I hope everyone at least shows up for the draft
I emailed you?
Yeah got it

Just have to set up my espn account

I got the email too
Threatening is pretty effective.
Let's just pretend this was a reply to Sandals.
What's wrong with setting up the league the exact same way as last year?
What was the set up last season?
Anyways, I don't really care.

I’ll play any roster with any settings.

Someone just let me know what they are.

I've done it exactly the same way.
Email sent to Tier III members that haven't emailed me...

please respond Hatfield, Lithia Rays, pudieron89 and ramedy.

Done.

No telling when pudieron will stumble out of his ass cave today.

Not gonna lie

Kinda ticked that you got affirmative action’d into Tier III after that dog vomit you hacked up last year.

It's not the grades you make, Faulkner. It's the hands you shake.
Do better this year and you will have a chance to get fantasy ass kicked by me again

Mr Italic Squirrels

Sai you messed up the settings. There should be 2 OF spots and no 2B/SS
No there is a 2B/SS
And I'm keeping 1 OF, no matter what
They all need to be the same across the Superliga or else.
Yes that's the larger point, I don't care what the settings are, they just need to be uniform
Here are the settings from last year

http://games.espn.go.com/flb/leaguesetup/settings?leagueId=12350

I personally think having a LF,CF,RF is retarded, but that’s the way we did it.

YES USE THESE
You're dumb. Last year there wasn't a 2B/SS (unless you were in a dumb league). There was LF, CF, RF, OF, OF & 1B/3B.

Change it. There’s zero reason to have an additional MIF spot.

Make that one OF. But ditch the 2B/SS
My league had the 2b/ss instead of 3b/1b

RETARD LM

Why the fuck would any league want an additional 2B/SS spot?
I had to start Jamey Carrol
Last year, nobody had the same settings
I actually think everyone did except one league
Yes, my retarded league
Yeah, this is definitely the case.
Tier 4 has 5/10 in the league.

ughhhhhhhhhh

Good thing we still have a month!!!
Also, feel free to invite all of the alternates or anyone else that you know. Just get it filled
Tried the alts already.

I didn’t think I’d have to recruit. That’s more of what the ugh was about. I could probably use some help because we have to get it done asap so a draft time can be scheduled.

The front page is calling...
I'll see if I can get somebody to join.

I’m sure it’s fine if they aren’t a regular DRB poster, right?

I'm sure, but they should probably have a SBN username.

Half the tools on the tier 4 list aren’t regs.

Tier 4 is up to 6.

Pikachu from Bluebird Banter has joined, and is wondering about his ban status and if it can be lifted. I have no idea what he did, but he is helping out a lot by joining this league, so whatever that’s worth.

Apparently due to the no anime rule?

sigh. I somehow hope there is a way around this one.

NO ANIME MEANS NO ANIME.
Are you still looking?

I’m interested if you are. My e-mail is in my profile so just let me know one way or another.

He's welcome to register an account that isn't based on a pokeman
CHANGE YOUR FUCKING NAME COMMA WEEABOO.
Tier 4 is up to 7.

STILL NEED 3!

Also, are any settings definite yet?
corner if, rf, lf, cf, 2 of, util
C - 1 - 2 - 3 - SS - 1/3 - lf - cf - rf - of - of - util
plus 9 P
And 0 pokemen.
-1 if I had my way
Bench?
5 bench 2 DL 7 transactions per week 12 GS per week
Tell Sai this
I've unlocked this subthread so he should be able to see it
did you do the lf/cf/rf last year?

I’m not sure I’m a fan of it but whatev

Yes
Ya it's pretty retarded
Agreed.
I mean I could understand having a corner outfield and a center field

At least that makes more sense. It doesn’t add any realism to me that I can’t play Matt Joyce in LF

I definitely prefer just generic OF

Plus that’s how we did it last year

What retarded league were you in?
Yes, even that would be better.
Dumb
So says the garbage commish
I'm still going to need some help filling 3 spots in tier 4.

Any recruiting help is appreciated.

I'm sure we can get that done in time.

There has to be a few guys who either change their mind or see that we need some help. I’ll do what I can though…

ShawnTSA, sveet, and FZ, get your rears in gear
Sorry about that, busy week
Slumdogs go on league page and give me a draft time
I don't think tier 4 is happening.

Just saying. Good luck this year.

The season doesn't start for a month
Contingency plans aren't a bad idea though

It is the Rays’ Way, after all. So I propose that, in the unlikely event that Tier 4 doesn’t happen, we emulated MLBs changes. Three Division Winners get a bye the first round, while the two best non-division winners get wildcard spots…and play a one-day playoff.

Completely OT:

Curious as to why you quit posting over at RR?

Is that some board about sunday school and animal murder?
So what if it is, Polk County boi?
I dunno, just sort of happened

I got really busy last year with the new book and didn’t go much of anywhere for baseball stuff at the beginning of the year. Then when I did stop by, the conversation seemed kind of dead and/or reactionary. I’ll probably stop by some more during the season when conversation picks up. There’s no hard feeling toward anybody, if that’s what you’re asking.

I understand.

That place is dead in the offseason. I backed away for quite dome time myself.

There is no interleague playoffs

Tier 1 winner is the champ.

No
This is what was agreed upon always

and now that people aren’t in tier 1 we are changing it.

What was the point of putting all the top players in tier 1 if some tier 4 garbage monster is going to have an equal chance to win it?

The first year was unique because we had to sort out the divisions, but then it was going to turn into a relegation/promotion system. Where Tier 1 is the Premier League.

Correct me if I am wrong.

I'd love to have a dialogue on this because I disagree and think re-ranks should be based on Win% as we did this year, but it's about what the people want

We should probably hammer out two to three different arguments and then take a poll. I like the idea of being able to win it all from anywhere, seems like less seniority and forces you to be on your toes more. If you want to avoid the bottom tier then you have to at least be in the top half of your league. Make the playoffs and you’re most likely either tier 1 or 2, especially if we have drop outs.

I just want to make sure I'm not in some bum tier.
What's the penalty for being in the bottom tier?

What’s the advantage to being in tier 1?

Right, now it’s nothing. (I think you could argue it’s more desirable to be in a lower tier)

If you're in the bottom tier for multiple years it's because you're the worst of the worst. Opposite for being at the top over and over

This is all bragging rights so if you can be the best of the best year after year then you’re clearly a better player. If I haven’t been clear, I don’t really care either way.

Any other Tier 1ers want to chime in?

So are we doing relegation from now on or are we still reseeding based on win % every year?

We'll take a poll
Sveet has definitely taken a pole.
Tier 1 envy
It is analogous to posting tiers.

Bottom tiered posters, like yourself, are not taken seriously here because of their low level posting quality.

Similarly, poor fantasy baseball owners (myself EXCLUDED here, because I forgot my ESPN password after like day 3 of the season) will see the same treatment.

Weren't you in Tier Ryan Gilliss's knob slobbers?
and as we all know, it is darned near impossible to get ESPN to reset your password
The penalty seems to be a league that isn't filled and with more likelihood of deadbeat owners

no offense, guys haha

Just because some shitty team played in a shitty division last year with a shitty commish, TGN1 I am looking at you,

doesn’t mean they deserve to be in the top Tier .

Sveet, leaguemates, total strangers, I think I've come up with a nice blended combination of how the rankings should go next year.

We will rank by all team’s records as we did going into this year, but let’s regress this with another 240 games at separate weights depending on tier:
Tier 1 .600
Tier 2 .550
Tier 3 .500
Tier 4 .450

So if you were in tier 1 and had a .506 Win% then that would regress to .553. If you had a .506 Win% in Tier 4 then that regresses to .478. We then rank by this weighted Win% or wWin%. We can tweak the win% weights and also how heavily we regress, but those details can be worked out later. For now, look at how last years ranks worked out:

Now let’s assume for a moment that red was Tier 1, Blue was Tier 2, Yellow was Tier 3, and Green is Tier 4, here’s how this looks with wWIN%:

You can still climb from Tier 3 to Tier 1 as Topper did or fall from Tier 2 to Tier 4 as Chin Music Jihad would have, but you’re not punished as harshly if you’ve already earned Tier 1 status.

I feel this is a nice compromise, but would like to know how others feel.

If you guys list the link to your leagues, I'd like to start a sheet that includes each of the teams.
This is tier 4

My team name will be changing once it’s filled.

http://games.espn.go.com/flb/leagueoffice?leagueId=72890

Should be up to 8 members within 24 hours, btw. 2 to go.

I put some feelers out to see if I could get some players for you.
Thanks.

I’ve tried at Camden Chat, BBB, and PSA.

Caught a pikachu at BBB. Regular pokeball, not a great or ultraball or anything.

I wish I could help more.

I just don’t have many resources that are SBNation posters…We have a ton of time though, and it shouldn’t be very hard at all.

Yeah, but time is running out, and I'd like to get everyone to agree on a draft date and time

That’s going to take a few days to get everyone’s input with their schedule and stuff, and then a little while longer to vote on a day, etc etc etc. The other ESPN league I run took about a week to decide a draft time from listed good/bad days/times to finally agreeing on a specific time.

Good point. You said you got another guy?
yes, if he emails me back.
If his username is something along the lines of DragonballZebra, you're banned forever.
I'll take what I can get

but no.

Actually his invite was just sent.
I'm stuck with the bad leaguers again
It's just an example, there's no way we were Tier 4 last year
Honestly, if you do it this way- It'll be way more confusing. Half of the people in tier 4 (my league) quit last year

And I’m not sure this will be as easy for inviting people.

But if we roll with this and there is actual participation in tier 4 (non-frequent DRB readers), I could see it workout (maybe)
Well new guys will continue to automatically get slotted in Tier 4 upwards, We'd probably still realistically have three full tiers and then one for new guys

If you’re not complete ass then you should always be in tier 1 or 2 if you play every year.

I don't see why you can't have relegation AND interleague playoffs

Use the regular season for relegation purposes, and the interleague post-season as simply bragging rights. That way, there can endless arguments about whether it is more impressive to win the toughest Tier in (fantasy) baseball, or to win the crapshoot of a (fantasy) “championship”

Yeah, that's happening anyway, I have no idea if we should let the four playoff teams have automatic exemptions to Tier 1. That seems fair with everyone else then slotting from there.
I'd rather not give the playoff teams automatic exemptions

There’s no reason for Tier 4 team to hop up to Tier 1 by virtue of simply making the playoffs. Maybe give the playoff champ an exemption to the top tier, but winning a non-competitive league isn’t really much of an accomplishment in and of itself.

It's almost exclusively filled with new players this year, I'd think you could throw them one bone, but you're probably right that it should be earned

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