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The Rays Tank: Spring Training Day Two

We're all happy baseball officially started yesterday, but unless you like to watch pitchers take fielding practice there isn't much happening these first few days. All 38 pitchers and catchers reported for workouts today, with 13 of the 21 position players also showing their faces according to Mark Topkin. He provides some pictures from the workouts which you can find here. You'll notice Jose Molina is featured a lot in the photos, once first bumping Matt Bush and another giving some tips to Jeff "The Big Nyquil" Niemann. He was brought in for what he can do behind the plate and if today is any indication he's already showing off those skills.

Now, if only there were actual games to report on, then it'd really be exciting.

  • On MLB.com Bill Chastain gives a rundown of the Matt Moore story, recapping how the kid from nowhere New Mexico rises to the top of baseball's prospect leader boards. He buries the lede in not talking about Moore's place in the rotation until the 18th paragraph since the piece is titled "Moore in mix, but may not land spot in rotation." With the extension he signed I don't see any way the team can justify keeping him in the minors. There are no arbitration games to play and he's currently better than either Wade Davis or Jeff Niemann. Speaking of Moore and the rotation, Steve had a nice write up of the situation on FanGraphs.
  • Joe Maddon always gives some sort of motivational speech on the first day of workouts. His message this year? Keep the momentum going from 2011. From mlb.com:

"We've created a lot of offseason momentum," Maddon said. "... With that, I really would like to see a high-energy Spring Training. I think if we just go through the motions, it's going to diminish our chances of getting off to a good start. I think if we get after it, we have a good chance for a good start, which I think is really important."

A better start than 0-6 would be nice.

  • Yesterday marked the 20th anniversary of the classic Simpsons' episode "Homer At The Bat" and over at Erik Malinowski has a beautiful write up at Deadspin of what went in to making the episode. If, like me, you're a huge Simpsons nerd then you'll absolutely love it. Of course, that episode also spawned the greatest song ever created from a television show, the immortal "We're Talkin Softball." I dare you to not hum that the rest of the day. Go ahead, try.
  • Boston finally received compensation from Chicago for in exchange for Theo Epstein in the form of reliever Chris Carpenter. The 26-year-old averages 95mph on his fastballs but comes with control issues. The deal also includes a player to be named later. All told, not a terrible haul for the Red Sox.

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high energy = cleats-up slides against any and all ALE ST opponents
approves

Greatest GD ballplayer of all time
Something something underwear
Maddon on the battle at shortstop
"A lot of it has to do with under the hood type stuff, actually. The different things we want to see each guy make improvements with. The kind of stuff that we talk to them about within these meetings that we’re going to have over the next couple of days regarding becoming more complete baseball players. It’s going to be more about that. If someone hits .350 and the other guy hits .220, that’s not necessarily going to be the reason why you choose one over the other. There’s different things we’ve been looking at, whether you’re talking about physical mechanics or maybe just some baseball stuff, whether it’s baserunning or instinctive kind of things. We’re looking at a variety of different topics with each guy. As it moves forward, please don’t just look at a batting average and think that this guy’s winning the war right now, it goes a lot deeper. With us, as you very well know by now, it’s about defense and we want to make
sure whomever it’s going to be … obviously, we talked a lot about how much we like Reid, no question. We thought that Sean did a really good job when we gave him that opportunity at the end of last season. There’s a lot of different things to look at regarding making a decision. A lot of it is going to do with the discussion that we have with each guy and then seeing who fulfills that little checklist."
WHY OUR THEIR KNOW GAMES???
Here's hoping our season starts more like 2010 than 2011

Remember that 22-7 start guys? And then that went to 32-12? And then that went to 96-66?

Yeah, but the Yankees gave us like 30 of those games
If we start 22-7 with the gauntlet we run in April ...

I’d start fitting guys for World Series rings.

Yeah that first stretch is just brutal

We don’t really face a stretch of teams expected to be under .500 until May.

wow that's unfortunate
Well, I guess it evens out eventually
It sucks that we don't get our easiest, prolonged stretch until after the ASB and close to the deadline

The team could be 7 games out at that time and still be in decent shape with that monthlong schedule of suck, but because of the deadline they may have an opportunity to flip pieces for good value. Going to be an interesting decision, but if we take care of business against the best then it won’t even matter

They wouldn't trade anyone anyway soooooo
I could see Beej going if they're 10 out, another team doesn't get the pick, but they get a could player for the stretch run

I could also see Shields going if they can sell high and go into full on rape mode.

Already got enough of that with Lueke on the team.
13 of 21?

Wonder which position players haven’t sauntered into camp yet?!?!

Hak Ju Lee hasn't showed up yet.

He knows he has no chance competing versus the son of Joe Maddon.

Best interview ever. (Still think it might be fake)
Pena, Zobrist, Lee, Coon, Feliciano, Miranda, and Salazar.
I'd appreciate it if you would call Beej by his name.
Typical Hatefilled
I was referring, of course, to BJ "Salazar" Upton.
Banned for heinous racism.
Very good Development

Business leaders get together to discuss the Rays

Tuesday’s conversation, however, was not about whether to build a stadium — something the Rays say they need — or where in Tampa Bay the team should play in the long run.

“Irrespective of any other discussion, the most important discussion is that the Rays are financially healthy, that they’re successful, that they’ve got a great team coming up in 2012 and we need to support them,” Buckhorn said.
The business leaders have seemed like a good agent for change throughout, doesn't change the political responsibilities of Foster who's in a bind here.
Right

He still has a property right to protect, but if this gets a hundred more seats sold a night, I’m absolutely for it. Its also helpful that many of these characters businesses have interests that span across the bay, and can apply pressure for a regional approach.

This is actually a pretty great idea.
Promo schedule:

DATE OPPONENT ITEM PRESENTED BY RECEIVED BY
Fri, 4/6 Yankees Schedule Magnet RE/MAX All fans in attendance
Sun, 4/8 Yankees Raymond Cowbell Chick-fil-A First 10,000 kids 14 & under
Fri, 4/20 Twins Collectible T-Shirt #1 Tampa Bay Times First 10,000 fans
Sat, 4/21 Twins Evan Longoria Walk-off Figurine Sweetbay Supermarket First 10,000 fans
Sun, 4/22 Twins Rays Recycled Youth Hat Mosaic First 10,000 kids 14 & under
Fri, 5/4 A’s Collectible T-Shirt #2* Tampa Bay Times First 10,000 women
Sun, 5/6 A’s Joe Maddon Sunglasses Match-Up Promotions First 10,000 kids 14 & under
Fri, 5/18 Braves Collectible T-Shirt #3 Tampa Bay Times First 10,000 fans
Sun, 5/20 Braves Kyle Farnsworth Bobblehead ADVANTICA First 10,000 kids 14 & under
Fri, 6/1 Orioles Jeremy Hellickson R.O.Y. Figurine Tampa Bay Times First 10,000 fans
Sun, 6/3 Orioles Desmond Jennings Bobblehead Pepsi MAX First 10,000 kids 14 & under
Thur, 6/14 Mets Cheer Sticks First 10,000 kids 14 & under
Fri, 6/15 Marlins Joe Maddon Bobblehead Tampa Bay Times First 10,000 fans
Sat, 6/16 Marlins Drawstring Backpack MLB Network First 10,000 fans
Sun, 6/17 Marlins David Price Jersey Wallet Grow Financial First 10,000 kids 14 & under
Fri, 6/29 Tigers Zim Bear Tampa Bay Times First 10,000 fans
Sun, 7/1 Tigers James Shields Bobblehead Progress Energy & First 10,000 kids 14 & under
The Heart Gallery
Fri, 7/13 Red Sox Burst Koozie Tampa Bay Times First 10,000 fans
Sun, 7/15 Red Sox Rays Ice Cream Bowl & Spoon Set First 10,000 kids 14 & under
Thur, 7/19 Indians Cheer Sticks First 10,000 kids 14 & under
Fri, 7/20 Mariners Collectible T-Shirt #4 Tampa Bay Times First 10,000 fans
Sun, 7/22 Mariners Matt Moore Bobblehead First 10,000 kids 14 & under
Fri, 8/3 Orioles Collectible T-Shirt #5 Tampa Bay Times First 10,000 fans
Sun, 8/5 Orioles DJ Kitty Bobblehead Chevrolet First 10,000 kids 14 & under
Thur, 8/9 Blue Jays Cheer Sticks First 10,000 kids 14 & under
Fri, 8/24 A’s Collectible T-Shirt #6 Tampa Bay Times First 10,000 fans
Fri, 9/7 Rangers Collectible T-Shirt #7 Tampa Bay Times First 10,000 fans
Sun, 9/9 Rangers Evan Longoria Mini Drum Set First 10,000 kids 14 & under
Fri, 9/21 Blue Jays Collectible T-Shirt #8 Tampa Bay Times First 10,000 fans
Sun, 9/23 Blue Jays TBD Bobblehead First 10,000 kids 14 & under

Some awesome stuff

But are we actually giving away the other teams shirt?!?!

not sure if serious
nevermind...totally misread that
Still think it would help attendance more if they offered the bobbleheads to all fans
Why

Giving it to kids requires you to buy two tickets

it also requires that you have kids
Well they only give away 10k of them

And pretty much always run out. I think it would make more sense to mint 20k of them. I trust they’ve done the market research on this one.

Yeah, like 20K ever show up
For Kotch shirt night

they did!

Complete with pit stains?
I have 2 Farnsworth ones

And I beat the crap out of everybody when I have them on.

If I had a Kotch jersey I would wear a tam and just walk around doffing it at people
or tried giveaways on a non-weekend maybe?

Have they announced any deals?

This makes a lot more sense

The promos are always on days people go to the park anyways

Or you optimize the weekends when people are more likely to be swayed by a freebie.

Sometimes no gift is enough to get you to the park during the week.

Could try it.

I still think they should bring back stuff like dollar hot dog night for weekdays.

They don't want fans, you don't get it
Preach the truth SK!
Well if it costs you $10,000 and it brings in another 500 fans at $15 a ticket then why would you lose money on a daily basis?
.

I love how this is one they are giving to adults as well
omg is this for real?
Yes. One of the featured giveaways in the press release.
wow
The Longoria walkoff figurine being the other.

Has a nice bit of in-built Sweetbay advertising. Curious if they’re the sponsor.

Well if you look at what you posted the sponsor is Sweetbay.
Ha, I skipped over the Sweetbay part in the presser.
Longo was obviously excited when he looked out to right field

And remembered the vast selection of produce and everyday bargains

Here's the pic:

That figurine looks terrible
I have a fairly big collection of bobbleheads from the Rays

I do my best to remove the corporate decals when it can be accomplished without ruining the figurine.

Gonna have to deal with Sweetbay on this one.
This is what Zimmer has been reduced to

Beat me to it.

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because 5k is chump change
Spoken like a true Christian
Actually I just did the math wrong
No I do.

It’s fucking annoying.

Why they got rid of the incredibly succesful college night is anyones guess
Like Sandy said

and has been said before, they don’t want fans it’s obvious. It’s just really annoying cause the place is more fun when it is rocking.

First playoff game against White Sox it was like a jet engine in there since everyone had cowbells and there wasn't a blue seat in the house
Likely because its a liability once it actually becomes successful

Get a bunch of college kids in your business…get them drunk…what could go wrong?

Do they even have deals for college kids?

I know the bolts have some nice ones.

They used to have a reduced seat to the party deck and $1 beer on Fridays

The beers were really, really small so on nights they actually pulled a crowd you spend half the game in line getting refills

Thursdays

but it was packed and a lot of fun and this was for a team losing 90 games a year

Actually no it was Fridays wasn't it?
Yeah, I sat up in the beach one game for dollar beers, that was the game I got a Luke Scott sucks the Cock chant going when he was in LF

Got the whole section to do it, would be nice to have it happen again. Pretty awesome that he just turned around and smirked

Yeah

First time I went was for the 4th of July in 2003. CC hit a walkoff 3 run homer. It was only my second devil rays game.

They might have last year

I forget if it was in the paper

Not talked about as much as Lightning deal

and most likely not every game (though different scenario) like Lightning deal.

I don't remember if it was a weekend deal or not
Can't wait to get my hands on a Yankees Schedule magnet on opening day, they really know how to cater to the locals
Friedman says what should've been obvious:
On if the Rays can duplicate their defensive success from 2011:
Friedman: "Well, we were phenomenal last year defensively. A lot of it gets to the pride that they take in it. Joe had the great idea to put up the gold glove in the clubhouse and we’ve stressed how important it is to us organizationally. That being said, last year not only did we have gifted defenders, the way we utilized information, the way we were active with our positioning, I think we’re going to have to continue to do that, in that we caught line drives at a very, very high rate last year, and a lot of that gets to positioning … and ability. I think, with that, it’s difficult to say we’ll definitely exceed that. More than that, we have really good, gifted defenders around the diamond. It’s part of the fabric of this organization, part of our DNA, and something that will continue to be for the foreseeable future – or I guess until every other team starts doing it. Then we’ll probably have to go a different direction. That was something that we talked about at the end of last season. If we could improve our offense while maintaining our high level of defense, obviously that was optimal. It’s easy to say, more difficult to do, so we were fortunate to line up on that. We think we have improved our offense and are going to maintain that high level of defense."
that is a very good sentence

basically go out and find the best searching for a skillset at a less desirable overall need. Once everyones gets into sexy sabermetrics and defense we can go after back of the baseball card guys and finally please our idiot fan base.

I think he's being a little conservative.

The last four big additions—Pena, Damon, Scott, and Manny—aren’t defensive guys. Seems like the shift is already happening.

He's just throwing them off the scent
To be fair, 2 of those were DHs
Manny, yeah.

I think Scott will get some field time.

Even Burrell got some field time

Not sure if that really matters given sample size

It doesn't. You don't need nine great defenders all the time.
It matters

Just not that much

A negligible amount of field time

No more than 100 innings all season, I wouldn’t expect

and Pena isn't a bad defender
He is lately.
At least by the metrics that people use to say the other players are good defenders.
I've always thought he was overrated

but he seems to do a good job with the stuff that wouldn’t’ show up in metrics. Like picking balls, etc.

I feel like I've read this exact sentence about my main man Casey K.
And Freddie Freeman. And almost every first baseman.
Even Giambi. I'm not kidding
Like picking UP balls maybe.
The Pena numbers:

UZR/150
2009: -6.1
2010: -3.7
2011: 0.9

DRS
2009: -6
2010: 1
2011: 3

TZL
2009: -11
2010: -4
2011: -5

FRAA
2009: -8
2010: -6.8
2011: 0.2

No idea which of those is closest to being “correct”, but I feel like if you threw it on a guy not named Pena people would say he’s average at best.

Slightly above average is probably fair
I say slightly below avg is fair
How did he get the perception of being a great defensive first baseman again?
Aging matters

Also anti-Kotch bias

This seems to predate Kotch
Defensive reputations die slow.

Especially at first base. Adrian Gonzalez will be called a great defender until he retires because of how good he is now.

Teixeira is a good example
Good point

It’s easy to see when a great hitter drops off. It’s not easy to see when a great defender starts declining

Depends on the position, Bartlett didn't disguise it well
I'd say the fewer opportunities the better.

So first base is ideal. Corner outfield, too.

Same reason people advocate stuff like signing Vlad

Name Brand sells over the actual product

Looks like the metrics were kinder a few years ago.

He also moves around to save throws, which gives him a boost from perception.

It's possible the scouting reports and the in-house numbers say different

But frankly, I think Kotchman was the better defender, and I don’t even think he was as good as possible thought—top five or 10 or whatever.

Put that in your 300 word Kotch comment and smoke it, Collette!
It got cut in half in the final product:
One of the biggest surprises in baseball, Kotchman revived his comatose career to start for a playoff team. Kotchman had been playing with an eye infection that was "like looking through a dirty windshield." Offseason surgery corrected the issue and looking through a clean windshield can’t have hurt given that he hit over .300 for the first time in his career. At a pure skill level, Kotchman was the same player he has always been but the results were better. His walk and strikeout rates, and batted ball outcomes were all identical to previous years, except for one puzzling developement: an increase in infield hits. Kotchman possesses grade-20 foot speed only because there is not a grade lower. yet he had a higher percentage of infield hits than Shane Victorino, Dexter Fowler, or Jimmy Rollins. Kotchman was viewed as one of the worst players in baseball just a year ago. Unlike, say, Jose Bautista, this does not feel like a legitimate change in true talent level.
Unlike, say, Jose Bautista, this does not feel like a legitimate change in true talent level.

This sentence still bugs me. If you project him higher than you did heading into 2011, than his TTL has changed. If you don’t, I think its dishonest. Sure he is likely far closer to his 2011 projection than his 2011 performance, but the TTL bar is always moving.

Also can one of you writers or editors explain this to me:
Offseason surgery corrected the issue and looking through a clean windshield can’t have hurt given that he hit over .300 for the first time in his career. At a pure skill level, Kotchman was the same player he has always been but the results were better

I don’t doubt its correct given the editing process, but it sure seems to me like it should be couldn’t have hurt

I've found a couple editing mistakes in the sections before the Diamondbacks preview, just seems like something you have to accept
Unless he's going for a weird southern thing, it should be couldn't.

Each chapter is about 8,000 words, times that by 30, divide that by two and you have your editing allotments. Mistakes are going to slip through unfortunately.

Wasn't trying to point out an error

My grammar is awful, figured maybe it was a learning opp.

Realistically, it's hard to expect any book that large to come together so quickly without a few mistakes.

You have to be pragmatic about it.

Agreed...

I noticed a few errors in the Extra 2% and the ESPN book that obviously had more people poring over them.

disagree, just get some people extraneous to the project to read it.

a different set of eyes can be incredibly helpful.

trending in the right direction!
Should have brought back my main man Casey K
He doesn't even rate as a top-10 defensive 1B by most metrics.
Blasphemy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Defense is definitely getting valued more these days.

But I think the trick is that if you want to add a player that’s good at offense, it’s very difficult to find cheap ones that can also play above average defense. The cheap offense grabs tend to be cheap because they’re less multi-faceted.

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