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How Whiff-y Are The Rays' Pitchers?

ST. PETERSBURG, FL - SEPTEMBER 07:  Pitcher David Price #14 of the Tampa Bay Rays starts against the Texas Rangers September 7, 2011 at Tropicana Field in St. Petersburg, Florida. (Photo by Al Messerschmidt/Getty Images)

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8 months ago: ST. PETERSBURG, FL - SEPTEMBER 07: Pitcher David Price #14 of the Tampa Bay Rays starts against the Texas Rangers September 7, 2011 at Tropicana Field in St. Petersburg, Florida. (Photo by Al Messerschmidt/Getty Images)

I don't know much about popular culture, so you'll have to tell me: is there a New Hot Thing out there at the moment? I know Jeremy Lin has quickly become the new Tim Tebow, but when it comes to anything outside sports, I'm at a loss. I'm actually somewhat proud of the fact that I know who Adele is, but that's around where my knowledge base evaporates.

I bring this up because in recent weeks, I've quickly become addicted to the New Hot Thing in the saber-sphere: the Brooks Baseball player cards. Brooks Baseball has always been a great tool for evaluating pitchers on a game-by-game basis, and we include their charts in our game recaps frequently. They've taken their site a step further, though, and their player pages are a treasure trove of Pitch F/x data.

In particular, I like to look at the stat Whiffs/Swing. In general, the more swings and misses a pitcher generates, the more strikeouts they should get. FanGraphs lists a pitcher's total Swinging Strike rate, but there aren't many places where you can find swings and misses broken down by pitch type. Brooks Baseball and the Joe Lefkowitz Pitch F/x Tool are the two places to find this data, but since Brooks has manually classified pitches, I feel more confident in their pitch classifications and results.

Why should we care about swings and misses? Whiffs are a good proxy for a pitch's "nastiness", and they can help us understand the strength of a pitcher's arsenal. Does Pitcher X only have one good out-pitch? Or is his entire repertoire above average? Is he using his pitches correctly? I may be a nerd, but I find this stuff fascinating.

Below the jump, you'll find the Whiff/Swing data from Brooks Baseball for the majority of the Rays' pitchers. But before you peek ahead, vote in the poll...who do you think has the single "nastiest" pitch on the Rays' pitching staff*? I'm curious to see how many people will be correct.

*At least, according to 2011 data.

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If I had to answer that question, I probably would have guessed James Shields' changeup or David Price's fastball. Or if you want to deal with smaller samples, Matt Moore's fastball.

It turns out, I was pretty far from the truth.

Top 5 Pitches (min. 100 pitches thrown)

Pitcher Pitch Count Whiffs/Swing
Fernando Rodney Changeup (CH) 161 46.15%
Kyle Farnsworth Slider (SL) 178 38.38%
James Shields Changeup (CH) 1003 37.46%
Joel Peralta Splitter (FS) 249 34.57%
Brandon Gomes Curveball (CU) 149 34.55%

Four of the top five pitchers are relievers, which shouldn't come as a huge surprise; relievers are able to kick it up a notch since they only have to throw for short bursts, and they normally don't have to face hitters multiple times during the same outing. But still, that is an outstanding whiff rate for Fernando Rodney's changeup. If he can gain a modicum of control this season, that changeup could make him a dominant late-inning weapon.

But if you guessed James Shields in the poll, you weren't entirely wrong; Shields' changeup did have the best whiff/swing rate for any starting pitcher on the Rays last season.

Top 5 Pitches, Starting Pitcher Edition (min. 100 pitches thrown)

Pitcher Pitch Count Whiffs/Swing
James Shields Changeup (CH) 1003 37.46%
Jeremy Hellickson Curveball (CU) 319 34.43%
James Shields Curveball (CU) 757 34.24%
Jeremy Hellickson Changeup (CH) 909 33.21%
Jeff Niemann Curveball (CU) 509 27.92%

Surprise! Not only did Shields have the best pitch at generating whiffs on staff, he also had the third-best pitch. And despite his low strikeout rate, Jeremy Hellickson had an excellent changeup and curveball last season; those pitches both featured wide platoon splits, though, and were much more effective against right-handed hitters. This is somewhat backwards, considering that pitches with vertical pitch movement are normally best against opposite-handed hitters, so hopefully this should improve going forward.

Also notable: David Price doesn't even make the list. All five of his pitches generated around 21-22% swinging strikes, so even though he doesn't have one pitch that rates highly, his overall arsenal is still dominant.

You can find the full dataset in this Google Doc, including the platoon splits for the starting pitchers. There are all sorts of interesting things to find in this data beyond what I've already pointed out, so here are a couple shorter observations:

  • Since Matt Moore was only up for a handful of starts, we don't have a large sample on him so I would take his whiff rates with a grain of salt. Even then, though, Moore had a 24% whiff/swing rate with his fastball (200+ pitches thrown), a higher rate than any other starting pitcher on the Rays last season. Brandon Gomes was the one other pitcher on staff to have a whiff/swing rate that high (24%, 350+ pitches).
  • Wade Davis's best pitch was his slider, and it topped out at 20% -- around 25-30th best on the list. Ouch.
  • The worst fastballs on staff? James Shields (9.6%) and Fernando Rodney (8.8%).
  • Burke Badenhop looks pretty darn awesome, as his two out-pitches (change, slider) both hit 30% whiffs/swing last season. His third pitch is his sinker, and he uses that to get batters to pound the dirt.
  • Anything else you want to share? Have fun playing with the data.
Poll
Which Rays pitcher generated the highest percent of swings and misses last season with one of his pitches (min. 100 pitches)?
David Price
42 votes
James Shields
203 votes
Jeremy Hellickson
47 votes
Jeff Niemann
21 votes
Kyle Farnsworth
28 votes
Fernando Rodney
27 votes
Joel Peralta
23 votes
Brandon Gomes
14 votes

405 votes | Poll has closed

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Comments

Yeah, but Jeremy Hellickson sucks
Two votes for Rodney so far.

And I’m pretty sure I accidentally voted for him twice.

This bullpen really will be alot of fun. So many arms with interesting stuff.

If he can only throw strikes 1 and 2...
I find it interesting that when you look at the names and stats, the 'pen doesn't look like anything too special.

But when you look more from a scouting perspective — the pitches each reliever throws and their potential — it’s really exciting. Gomes and Badenhop are both under the radar, but I really like them. And Rodney….we’ll see, but he’s going to be a ride no matter how he turns out.

There's a lot of split/change type pitches in there.

Between Badenhop, Lueke, Gomes, Peralta, and Buente.

I’m not sure if this is something the FO actively looks for or if it’s just coincidence, but you can include the tragic fascination with Joe Nelson in that list if you want.

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I 100% knew it was Rodney. Whelk gave it away when we signed him.
I played the "one of these things does not belong" game

Plus im sure everyone on here knows Rodney has an amazing change up that he doesnt throw enough*

*Until this season

I still think Niemanns spike curve is pretty damn nasty when he is on.

He makes hitters look silly even when they don’t swing. He gets a lot of buckles and flinches on that pitch.

Very True.

It’s nice to see it show up so well, too. I wasn’t sure it would.

The “one standout pitch” type pitcher has been making me thing about SIERA, recently. So, one of the really cool things about SIERA is that it tries to understand a pitcher’s ability to induce weak contact. For both pitchers with very high K% and very high GB% rates, SIERA knows that hitters have trouble squaring the ball up against these pitchers and assumes a lower than normal BABIP. This makes intuitive sense, because if a pitcher gets an unusual amount of ground balls, that means he’s exerting control over the hitters, and his ground balls are more weakly hit. For high K% pitchers, it makes sense because if you’re getting the hitters to swing and miss a lot, a then in the whole range of bat/ball contact, you’re also getting them to almost swing and miss, but instead tap it weakly off the side of the bat.

But pitcher level stats don’t tell a very complete story. I know that the creators of SIERA tested using whiff% instead of K%, and found that it didn’t improve things, but I bet there’s hay to be made in looking at whiff% and GB% of individual pitchers, and building the components more granularly.

Consider Niemann. He has one extreme groundball pitch (the curve), one sort of groundball pitch (the two seam fastball), two fairly average-ish pitches (the slider and the changeup), and one pretty big flyball pitch (the four seam fastball). Now, if you look at him from the pitcher level, you see someone with very average groundball tendencies, but he’s getting there via opposing extreme pitches.

The recent success of the STEAMER projections with pitchers was predicated on incorporating fastball velocity, and I think that there’s a lot of interesting work to be done with using other sorts of pitch centered data in metrics like SIERA that really try to understand the batter/pitcher dynamic.

Interesting that you mention that, I spent some of the weekend looking at Contact% vs. GB% for 2008 - 11 for starting pitchers. The logic being that pitchers with low contact and high GB rates should be incredibly useful

as they get a ton of whiffs and when contact is made it’s on the ground. I ranked by SIERA so you get the first however many before I ran out of patience labeling and some of the most egregious outliers:

Some of the biggest names in pitching are in that upper-lefthand quadrant where you would expect the greats to be, but you also see a ton of guys in the bottom left. The bottom right is where you don’t see guys last very long as they don’t get many whiffs or ground balls. You can have success without a great ground ball rate, but the same can’t be said for contact, it would appear, unless you just don’t walk anybody like Cliff Lee. I found this interesting and figured I’d pass along

Since Helly didn't meet the qualifications and I'm sure some are curious, he profiles most closely to Jered Weaver

GB%
Helly 35.3%
Weaver 33%

Contact%
Helly 77.6%
Weaver 77.9%

That's not a happy place for Wade Davis.

And yeah, this shows how GB pitchers can get overrated if one isn’t careful. The K% part is way more important.

Also, I think the extreme flyball guys outperformed peripherals too, by a bit.

I was wondering about that pitch.

Whenever he throws it, he pounds his glove with the ball like Moore did with his fastball. I’ve always wondered if the hitters can see that and still look bad, or if it has no effect at all. Anyone know anything about this?

Who are more whiffy?

Rays pitchers or Rays hitters

Hitters.

From Fangraphs, 20.4% (including pitcher PAs) for batters vs. 19.1% for pitchers.

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thanks Steve

now I might not be the only one on the Gomes bandwagon. The guy has the best FB whiff % of those who qualify and his curve is the #5 pitch overall. This kid has extremely under-rated stuff because he doesn’t throw 95+. I really hope he doesn’t start in Durham.

I doubt that Whiff% continues to be that high.
The issue has little to do with stuff and a lot to do with arm slot, with that 3/4's - sidearm delivery, lefties should get a nice look at his pitches

If he develops a change with good fade he can negate that a bit, but he hasn’t yet to my knowledge

This

Really like his poise on the mound, still hoping we make some kind of trade to give him a spot.

“Whiff-y” I like it. Good read.

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